2010-07-18 Discussion on the OAK Discussion Board // Debate sobre el tablero de la discusión OAK

Comment by Joseph Zernik, Los Angeles, CA just now

Delete CommentDear Lynette: As for the solution - the evidence from Los Angeles County, and beyond, in the past couple of decades shows that we cannot expect it to come from the United States government. The highest level officers of the US Department of Justice are fully informed on corruption of the judiciary in Los Angeles County, California. Yet, they refuse to take action, even when prodded by US Congress. It has therefore been Human Rights Alert's policy for sometime to focus its efforts on increasing international awareness of the level of abuse that US citizens are subjected to by their own government. Hundreds of thousands of reads and downloads from Human Rights Alert were registered from over 85 nations around the globe. Between now and November 2010, our efforts should be focused on lobbying nations who sit on the Human Rights Council of the United Nations - to affect an honest and effectual report by the United Nations in its first ever review of Humane Rights in the United States. [1] We must define specific areas of abuse, such as false imprisonments - the focus of Human Rights Alert's report, the intimidation of Human Rights counsel - the focus of OAK's report, or the retaliation against whistle-blowers - the focus of ITHACA's report. With it, we must propose specific goals and effective corrective actions, which should be easily monitored, which the report would request the United States to undertake between 2010 and the next review - in 2014. It is not that such report is the end all in the matter. However, such report is very likely to get publicity, which is much wider than anything that we may be able to generate on our own. jz LINKS [1] 10-04-24-The-Road-Ahead-from-April-to-the-November-2010-review-of-the-US-Human-Rights-by-the-United-Nations shttp://www.scribd.com/doc/31433805/

Comment by Joseph Zernik, Los Angeles, CA just now

Delete CommentDear Dr Jackson: . The case of Richard Fine was used only as an example. The vast majority of the victims are blacks and latinos, and about a third of them were estimated to have been still juveniles at the time of their false imprisonment. . As quoted in the paper forwarded to you some weeks ago: 1) Reports by PBS in 2001 related to the Rampart scandal investigation (1998-2000) provided various estimates of the number of those who were falsely imprisoned in Los Angeles County as 8,000 to 30,000. 2) Unofficial report by Prof Erwin Chemerinsky, Founding Dean of the UC Irvine Law School, and renowned constitutional scholar in 2001 stated upon review of the matter: “This is conduct associated with the most repressive dictators and police states… and judges must share responsibility when innocent people are convicted.” 3) Unofficial report by Prof David Burcham, Dean of Loyola Los Angeles Law School in 2001 stated: “…judges tried and sentenced a staggering number of people for crimes they did not commit." 4) Official report by the Blue Ribbon Review Panel stated in 2006: "Innocent people remain in prison". It also recommended "external investigation" of the Los Angeles Superior Court, which the US government so far has refused to conduct. , In view of the above, I would be grateful if you could please likewise provide the references to the "general proposition of accountants, historians, journalists, gumshoes, etc. checking against paper, receipts, and original records." . As far as I could tell, you were making baseless statements by the seat of your pants, in a matter that is, based on solid evidence, a Human Rights disgrace of historic proportions. . Truly, Joseph Zernik, PhD

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Comment by c. lynnette thomas 59 minutes ago

so, with all this blogging and boggling, exposing the issues, where is the chattering about viable solutions? I very much support the idea that comments here should be kept under the 250 word limit rule, as comments and blogs are a might different. anything more that needs said in a comment, a link can be provided to the corresponding blog. that way, we'll be able to sort through all the info with much more ease and, together, devise strategies to begin to resolve the many issues. I would love to aid in that endeavor, but get rather lost in the exhausting comments here. just some thoughts on how to streamline things here and make it more productively functional for all our purposes! :)

Comment by Dr. A. D. Jackson 5 hours ago

I only stated a general proposition of accountants, historians, journalists, gumshoes, etc. checking against paper, receipts, and original records. I did not imply Richard Fine's papers were in order as I have extreme misgivings concerning his being locked up. Andrew