10-11-02 The Civic Duties of the Common Person in the Robber Baron Revival Era

FROM THE LAWSTER DISCUSSION GROUP

On 11/3/2010, Joseph Zernik wrote:
Janet:
I never suggested that it was the answer.  I am just pointing out to you that what you are documenting is of historic magnitude, and no solution is likely to emerge anytime soon... 
In a recent visit to Amsterdam, I found people there still talking about the "setting in of the Age of Aquarius"... To the best that I could recall, the "Age of Aquarius" was said to be "dawning" in the 1970s, as an era of "harmony and understanding"...
In contrast, I claim that we are at the dawn of a Robber Baron Revival Era, characterized by looting of the people of the United States by the Judiciary-Banking complex... 
The Era may last decades, or more, so I was just advising you not to hold your breath...
The civic duty of the common person in the Robber Baron Revival Era is to document the scope of abuse taking place under our watch.
Keep up the good job! 

jz 

At 04:32 AM 11/3/2010, Janet wrote:

Dear Joseph,
Creating a record is only one step of the process. You are deluded if you think it is the answer.
Warmly,Janet Phelan 

On 11/2/2010, Joseph Zernik wrote:

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Janet:
You are deluded if you believe that anybody could help in these matters within any reasonable time.  Instead, you should continue to write, publish...
The civic duty of the common person in the Robber Baron Revival Era is to document what is happening under our watch.  In previous periods, records were kept mostly by government and the powers that be.  People like Howard Zinn revolutionized the field with his "People's History of the United States".
However, today, it is much easier to create records of the abuse.
Keep up the good job!
Joseph

At 09:27 PM 11/2/2010, Janet wrote:

I am on deadline and just submitted an article to the Sentinel concerning a probate attorney kidnaping  his father, who is under a conservatorship (the probate attorney is now the trustee of the dad's estate and a sister is the conservator) stealing him away from his home and his wife in order to put him into a guarded assisted living facility. There has been no rationale provided for this.

In quick succession, the probate attorney then evicted his own brother from a home that the dad had granted the brother prior to the initiation of the conservatorship.  The brother has a wife and three small children, the youngest of whom is not quite two. 

Adding injury to more injury, the probate attorney then garnished the wages of the now homeless brother's wife, in order to pay his attorney fees.

The family thinks the dad is going to be dead in no time.  The judges have been cleared of conscience...they have had their consciences removed and replaced by dollar signs.  What I am so concerned about is that the legal reform community doesn't seem to respond much better.

I can get no one to help me with my case and the people I am in touch with, my ever growing pool of victims, find at best an attorney to hire who stabs them in the back. 

What happened to people? Are we so desensitized to human suffering, is it the video game culture, the fluoride, what is it? 

I go to these movies, particularly the vampire movies, like daybreakers, to get a feel for the metaphysic of our times. Over and over again I see the same theme emerging...something has happened to people and there are those among us who will now eat  us for lunch. Or more aptly, perhaps, for a few bucks.

Janet

--- On Tue, 11/2/10, william scott <04wmscott@comcast.net> wrote:

From: william scott <04wmscott@comcast.net>

Subject: RE: Why are we stymied in impotency?

To: lawsters@googlegroups.com

Cc: "'Mark Adams'" , "'Montgomery Blair Sibley'"

Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 12:55 AM

Janet,

The issue in most, if not all, of the presentations you refer to is at what level is the conscience of a court shocked.  

So none of  the responses are tangents to your interests.  

What we must do is develop a conscience for the legal system..  

The use of the newspapers by W. Mark Felt should have given the legal system a wakeup call,  see My life as a G-man, but it did not.  

The discovery of DNA evidence should have forced reforms upon the system, see ABA study of Texas and Florida death penalty cases, but it has not. 

In Florida, the Supreme Court has appointed a Commission to investigate the DNA issues but with restrictions and without mention of the ABA study.  

Absolute immunity prevents the development of a conscience by the legal system and arms them with the weapons to inflict retribution upon anyone who tries to force an examination of the wrongs it condones.   

The cases you study are among the most egregious.  

The theft of my clients money and my suspension pale by comparison, but if we start with the facts of their and my case, we may be able to cause the legal system into providing justice to the people.  The system will never voluntarily admit the facts of the cases you present or the wrongful convictions in the death penalty cases, too severe for them.  We must begin with something relatively harmless.

Bill

William Sumner Scott

3109 Grand Avenue, #183

Miami, FL 33133

305 961-9949

04wmscott@comcast.net

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From: lawsters@googlegroups.com [ mailto:lawsters@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Janet Phelan

Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:02 PM

To: lawsters@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Why are we stymied in impotency?

I see where the discussion is going off on all sorts of interesting tangents. I would really appreciate a thoughtful response here! Thank you,

Janet