11-10-25 Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street: What's going on in the United States? // Tea Party, ocupan Wall Street: ¿Qué está pasando en los Estados Unidos? // 茶话会，据华尔街：在美国这是怎么回事？

   

It is not only the Tea Party and the OWS.

A more comprehensive list would include, but not be limited to:

• Second amendment advocates
• Fourth Amendment advocates
• Anti war protestors
• Birthers
• Tea Party
• OWS
• Sovereign People
• Freemen
• Gold coin issuers
• De Jure Grand Juries
• "Common Law" advocates
• Editors of the July 4, 2011 Time Magazine
• The majority of US voters, who do not vote
• Bloggers, discussion groups and other internet communities of various shades
• Conspiracy theorists at large

All these groups, and many more, appear to share the notions that:

• Over the past decade, or longer, US governments of both parties have been committing crimes against the People of the US and against People elsewhere.
• Corporate media are not to be trusted as a primary source of information regarding conditions in the United States.
• Corporate interests (banking, military industrial complex, others) have gained unreasonable power.
• The US political system is dysfunctional
• The US Constitution and the Human, Constitutional  and Civil Rights of the People, which were "guaranteed" in it, were and are disregarded.

Legally oriented people may call it a Constructional Crisis, sociologists may call it Lack of Social Contract, or Social Disintegration.  Regardless of the name, the discontent is widespread and real, and it originates in the oppression of the People, both economically and physically.

Deeper understanding of the situation, its causes and possible remedies, e.g., the looting of the People by the banks, requires high level of education and access to information that the public at large may not be privy to (e.g. - because of corporate/media/government cover up).  Therefore, many of these groups many appear illogical, inarticulate, or counterproductive.

However, the outrage is there, and if it continues to swell, it may lead to unprecedented social and political changes in the US (not necessarily for the better).

That is part of the nature of revolutions:

• The direct cause of the French revolution, according to some historians, was the salt tax.  In popular culture it is "let them eat cakes".  Regardless, the situation got out of control, and ended up with heads rolling... 
• Both the French and Russian revolutions went through phases that were arguably worse than the regimes that caused them.

Revolutions are uncontrollable, violent and destructive processes. The whole notion of constitutional republic was meant to make them unnecessary.  Unfortunately, once social conditions get to the point, where a particular group has managed to grab power to the point of being able to seriously abuse the rest of the People, it is difficult to convince such group to yield power peacefully.  The "1%" feels fully entitled, while Jefferson, Franklin, Madison and their friends are rolling in their graves.

JZ
At 06:18 AM 10/25/2011, you wrote:

W:

Thanks for sending both the Tea Party and 2012 Obama e-mails.  Informative.  Interesting contrast.  The country seems to be growing more and more divergent.  Especially after reading your e-mail below, which I am still digesting and contemplating, and will reply.

Re your statement about what JZ thinks OWS is, and what OWS wants, I am also interested in what he says. Let's hear JZ.

You did not reply re the remainder of my e-mail, in your e-mail below.  You may not have seen it, as it was at then end of my e-mail, after the comments to the article Occupy LA.  Check it out and reply.  G