13-09-01 RE: SYRIA - Response by the People in the UK and US to recent governments deadly adventures...

 

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BushII, Blair, Obama

Unter den Linden, Berlin, September 1 - from a discussion group, mostly American...
1) Bob. wrote:

What's gonna happen and how to prepare for it.

The goal, I believe, is to utterly transform the world’s political, economic, and social systems.  The goal is to generate intense fear; fear that can be used as capital to buy, as the globalists call it, a “new world order”.  Syria is the first domino in a long chain of calamities; what the Rand Corporation sometimes refers to as a “linchpin”.  As I write this, the Obama Administration is moving naval and ground forces into position and clamoring in a painfully pathetic fashion to convince the American public that 90% of us are “wrong” and that a strike on Syria is, in fact, necessary.  It appears that the establishment is dead set on starting this chain reaction and accelerating the global collapse.  So, if a strike does occur, what can we expect to happen over the next few years?  Here is a rundown…

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/what-to-expect-during-the-next-stage-of-collapse_08292013



2)Joseph wrote:

me (Joseph Zernik, Human Rights Alert (NGO) change)

Aug 31 (15 hours ago)

In a simplistic way one can view the US as a deliquent juvenile, running around, burning the neighbors' houses, trafficking drugs, robbing his family and others. China in comparison is the responsible adult on the block, giving the deliquent juvenile some pocket money every months, through T-bills purchases, and trying to convince the juvenile to behave...

3) Bob. wrote:

That is simplistic and wrong.� The US is part of a quasi-vigilante consortium (UN and subordinate regional alliances) that runs around burning criminals' and murderers houses and taking away the leftover stuff they stole from others.


4)W wrote:

Hummm, change your statement of US to US Government and plug in the unaccountability factor that causes government to act like juvenile delinquents, and you have a pretty accurate description of reality, JZ.  I mean, no this net, the black race is characterized as "juvenile delinquents" whose delinquent conduct arises out of genetic stupidity.  How do you account for the same kind of conduct from hoards of white men and women with certifiable genetic pedigrees, but by their immunity to accountability under the law which causes their impunity to the law that you describe as "Juvenile Delinquency"?

W



5)Joseph wrote:

Describing the US as quasi-vigilante is understatement of the century(ies)...  
In Iraq, for example, the killing of innocent civilians by the US, probably exceeded the killing by Saddam Hussein during his entire reign by an order of magnitude.  One must of course separately count the mass killing of draftees, many of them minors, during the Iran Iraq war.  However, in all cases the US perpetrated or supported the killing, more or less openly...

Because when people are killed by their own respective governments, it is abuse. When the US installs such governments or supports them, it is prudent foreign policy. And when the US decides to uninstall such governments at will, it is under the color of global Human Rights enforcer...
But that logic seems to be accepted at present among people in the United States, where Hillary and Bill have repeated warned that the US is losing the ¨Information War¨ on its own People (relative to Al Jazeera broadcasts in the US, and before that with the preposterous proposal for an ¨Internet Czar¨.  (And you call them ¨Liberals¨??? )
Such logic fails to pass muster by the majority of the people in other nations. 
Case in point: The recent vocal public opposition in the UK, the eternal, core US-ally, to another US-led, deceptive adventure, and the failure of Cameron to gain approval for his desire to again join the US in such maneuvre.  

Last time around, Blair simply bypassed the lawful process for taking Britain to war.  In testimony in Parliament, he later described the final decision to go to war as a decision of a party of one - Blair himself.   And the final cause for joining the US in the war in Iraq - a personal phone call from BushII, the content of which he could not share with the Parliament investigation committee, becuase of its top confidential content!  

Beyond that after the fact, public humiliation he was held unaccountable! 
Nevertheless, when one compare the conduct of the People of the UK in recent years in this regard to the conduct of the People of the US, one must give credit to the British, and discredit the Brave and the Free:  The People of the UK were once deceived by their PM into a deadly American adventure.  Then they said -  Shame on you, Blair - and made sure that it never happens a second time on their watch.

And the Americans?